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    9 Game Big Ten Schedule Coming in 2017?

    A nine game Big Ten conference schedule has been bandied about since last August's Big Ten media days event.

    A story in the Indianapolis Star from this week suggests that 2017 might be the year the league moves to a nine-game conference slate.

    In that story, Purdue Athletic Director Morgan Burke says “We were told to clear the calendar from 2017 and we’ve done that.” Told by the Big Ten.

    Later in the article, Burke suggested that the league would not add another protected crossover rival (Iowa and Purdue are one another's current crossovers), but rather the rate that teams will play the schools from the other division would increase.

    So instead of playing against three teams from the opposite division, you would play four in addition to the five games you would play against your own division teams each year.

    So this year, Iowa plays its five division opponents, plus Purdue..those six games are going to be in place every year. Iowa also plays Indiana and Penn State this year from the Leaders Division. If the league goes to nine games, there would one more opponent on Iowa's schedule from the Leaders, which means there would be just two teams each Big Ten program WOULD NOT face. The three opposite division foes would change every two years, after each school had a chance to play one home and one road game against the programs from the opposite division, then a new set of three schools would come on to your schedule.

    Being that Michigan and Ohio State are in opposite divisions, it's highly unlikely that the protected rivalry game is going to go away any time soon. Without the protect rival game, it would be a nice and easy three in, three out scenario. You play three opposite division schools for two years, then you ship them out and bring the other three in, so there would only be a two year gap in between meetings at the most.

    In what is likely to be the case, it won't be so balanced and I don't know how the league will decide one what school leaves your schedule in a nine-game set up.

    For example, the same five division teams and Purdue are on Iowa's schedule. Say in addition to Penn State and Indiana, Iowa also played Wisconsin for the next two years...that's nine games. That means the only two schools Iowa would not play from within the league over the next two years would be Ohio State and Illinois.

    After two years passes, Iowa will still play its five division foes and Purdue, plus Illinois and Ohio State come on their schedule..so one of Penn State, Indiana and Wisconsin would also stay on the schedule, which means there will be one opposite division foe each Big Ten team will face for four straight years and six times out of eight years, since they will come back on the schedule after the subsequent rotation ends.

    Balancing that out competitively will be a challenge, to be sure....some school from the Legends will draw Ohio State in that lot...where some will draw Indiana. That's hardly an equitable proposition.

    In my opinion, a nine-game schedule is full of more challenges than obvious good...because we haven't even addressed the 5/4 - 4/5 aspects...one year you play five home and four road games, then the next year if flips. That will factor into the Big Ten title chase, in addition to the scenario I just laid out above.

    It also means that Big Ten programs will play one less out of conference game...which likely means three home game cupcakes for many programs. It will also cause the Iowa-Iowa State game to need a serious evaluation, as the Hawkeyes would want to host three games for the gate revenues and the CyHawk Series is a home and home.

    I am sure we will hear more about this Thursday and Friday at the Big Ten media days in Chicago.
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    Re: 9 Game Big Ten Schedule Coming in 2017?

    It definitely will change the scheduling on the years you only have 4 home conference games. Big time programs will need to schedule 3 home games on those years, likely against creampuffs. So what is gained in conference games will be lost in the non-conference. And, your national reputation is based on what you do against opponents outside of your conference.

    I'm not so sure this is good for the conference, as a whole.
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    Re: 9 Game Big Ten Schedule Coming in 2017?

    Since they won't add a new protected rivalry, is there any chance the protected rivalry cahnges ie. Iowa dumps Purdue for Wisconsin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by H8IAST8 View Post
    Since they won't add a new protected rivalry, is there any chance the protected rivalry cahnges ie. Iowa dumps Purdue for Wisconsin?
    I doubt that happens. Wisconsin and Minnesota are protected rivals. There is as much history there than there is for Iowa-Minnesot..more in fact.
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    Re: 9 Game Big Ten Schedule Coming in 2017?

    I wonder how much of this is motivated by the escalating fees required to get guaranteed home games against cupcakes? All of the problems everyone is citing are real, but how do they compare to spending $1+ million just to schedule a home game? That sort of math works out fine when you have great fan support and know you'll make it back double at the game itself. I don't know how teams like Minnesota do it, and I don't see how those fees are going to drop any time soon. There is a finite supply of teams willing to travel out there, and they're going to play schools against each other to get the best deal possible.
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    Re: 9 Game Big Ten Schedule Coming in 2017?

    More conference games will be needed when the B1G expands after Notre Dame's NBC contract expires.

    Just sayin'.
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    Re: 9 Game Big Ten Schedule Coming in 2017?

    Quote Originally Posted by olivecourt View Post
    I wonder how much of this is motivated by the escalating fees required to get guaranteed home games against cupcakes? All of the problems everyone is citing are real, but how do they compare to spending $1+ million just to schedule a home game? That sort of math works out fine when you have great fan support and know you'll make it back double at the game itself. I don't know how teams like Minnesota do it, and I don't see how those fees are going to drop any time soon. There is a finite supply of teams willing to travel out there, and they're going to play schools against each other to get the best deal possible.
    That's why you see Minnesota playing games at Middle Tennessee State last year and at Bowling Green in 2008, at Florida Atl in 2007 and at Kent in 2006. They aren't buying all of their games, they play some home and homes. NW either was at Rice last year, too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palpatine View Post
    More conference games will be needed when the B1G expands after Notre Dame's NBC contract expires.

    Just sayin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonDMiller View Post
    That's why you see Minnesota playing games at Middle Tennessee State last year and at Bowling Green in 2008, at Florida Atl in 2007 and at Kent in 2006. They aren't buying all of their games, they play some home and homes. NW either was at Rice last year, too
    Yep. Nine conference games makes a ton of sense for the bottom half of the league. Would you rather have a home-and-home in Murpheysboro, TN, or an extra home conference game every other year? That's probably an extra $2-3 million net added to the athletic dept.'s bottom line.
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    Re: 9 Game Big Ten Schedule Coming in 2017?

    I hate the idea of going to 9. I DESPISE rematches in CCG's, and going to 9 conference games is the first step in creating more rematches.

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    Re: 9 Game Big Ten Schedule Coming in 2017?

    One major problem I have with the thought of adding another cross over game is that there would be the possibility that while one team gets to face OSU, PSU, and Wisc in back to back seasons as conference games you could have another team that gets to avoid all three over the same time frame. You could also have a scenario where a team from the other division could dodge Iowa, Nebraska, and Michigan State over a two year time frame. Not a fan of that being it could majorly impact the conference race. Not to mention the fact that every other year you're going to be playing an extra away game.

    I say leave it at 8 games the way it is.
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    Going to 9 will most likely end the Clown rivalry....thank god.
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    Re: 9 Game Big Ten Schedule Coming in 2017?

    Anyone see a possible 9 game Big Ten schedule involving 4 Home, 4 Away, and 1 Neutral game every year?
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    Re: 9 Game Big Ten Schedule Coming in 2017?

    I actually like the idea of a second protected rival ... it makes things much more sensible and easier ... and we can drop Purdue

    School --- cross-division rivals

    Iowa --- Wisconsin, Illinois
    Michigan --- Ohio State, Purdue
    Mich State --- Indiana, Penn State
    Minnesota --- Wisconsin, Purdue
    Nebraska --- Penn State, Indiana
    Northwestern --- Illinois, Ohio State

    Of course, it would always be better to just have gone East/West and not have to worry about protected rivalries!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bwsmoney View Post
    I actually like the idea of a second protected rival ... it makes things much more sensible and easier ... and we can drop Purdue

    School --- cross-division rivals

    Iowa --- Wisconsin, Illinois
    Michigan --- Ohio State, Purdue
    Mich State --- Indiana, Penn State
    Minnesota --- Wisconsin, Purdue
    Nebraska --- Penn State, Indiana
    Northwestern --- Illinois, Ohio State

    Of course, it would always be better to just have gone East/West and not have to worry about protected rivalries!
    This makes sense to me on all counts. Scheduling would have made so much more sense going East/West. The conference seems dead set against going that route but these protected rivalries will cause alot of scheduling headaches.
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