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    16 Team Big Ten Superconference

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    What happens if the Big Ten goes to 16 teams? | Mr. College Football
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    Re: 16 Team Big Ten Superconference

    Pray that this never happens. It will be the end of the traditional Big Ten, and it will be a dark day for me. Add 1 more team, that is all.
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    Re: 16 Team Big Ten Superconference

    There has been a lot of speculation about conference expansion. I hasten back to the theory that conference expansion involves more than athletics. Much of it has to do with building a bigger political footprint to get research dollars from the federal government. Currently the B10 covers eight states. If the B10, under Barnhardt's speculation, expands to 16, it would add four more states. The prospect of 24 senators of 100 is a very powerful argument.

    Looking long term, 20 years out, I see more people getting higher education via on-line Universities than by physically attending a college. The Universities will become attendance centers for those seeking advanced degrees where research requires being present on campus. The U of I is already on that path to get undergraduate students to use on-line courses and use community colleges facilities to take courses prepared by U of I staff.

    While at present the talk of conference expansion is athletic, long term it may mean the end of scholarship athletics as they are currently constructed. College football and basketball will morph into semi-professional sports where athletes are paid and the athletic programs are an extension of the Universities.
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    Re: 16 Team Big Ten Superconference

    Man, I would hate 16 teams. I can see adding a 12th, but a super-conference? Come on.

    I guess I'm a traditionalist. I hate what that would do to the landscape of the Big 10. You might not play some teams for 3-4 years. I think the rotating schedule we have now is bad enough.
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    Re: 16 Team Big Ten Superconference

    Quote Originally Posted by bud2380 View Post
    Pray that this never happens. It will be the end of the traditional Big Ten, and it will be a dark day for me. Add 1 more team, that is all.

    This is funny.
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    Re: 16 Team Big Ten Superconference

    This will never happen
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    Re: 16 Team Big Ten Superconference

    If the BigTen leads the way with the first 16-team power conference, I think you end up with a few more power conferences. Maybe four main conferences with 16 teams (64 total teams- Big Ten, Pac-10, SEC, ACC)? It will be fun to see how this unfolds!
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    Re: 16 Team Big Ten Superconference

    Quote Originally Posted by busabus114 View Post
    This will never happen
    I wouldn't say "never" because if Congress tries to mandate a playoff or the government does something drastic to the BCS, the Big Ten could poach a few Big 12 and maybe Big East teams and the SEC could poach a few ACC teams and we would basically have two super conferences plus the Pac 10. Big Ten champ could play SEC champ and Big Ten runner up goes to the Rose Bowl or something. I'm not saying it's likely, but let's face the truth here, the SEC and Big Ten are the monetary drivers of college football, yet big government types like Orrin Hatch want to reallocate the profits of our conference to other smaller conferences. Fan bases like ours prop up the college football economy and if the government tries to strong arm Delaney into giving our money to the Boise States of the world, it will not end well for the small schools. The chance for the small schools to play in a $15 million BCS bowl will evaporate because the Big Ten (with some strategic poaching) and the SEC can take the ball and go home, leaving Boise and TCU to fight it out in the Micron Bowl for $2 million or whatever.
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    Re: 16 Team Big Ten Superconference

    Quote Originally Posted by okeefe4prez View Post
    I wouldn't say "never" because if Congress tries to mandate a playoff or the government does something drastic to the BCS, the Big Ten could poach a few Big 12 and maybe Big East teams and the SEC could poach a few ACC teams and we would basically have two super conferences plus the Pac 10. Big Ten champ could play SEC champ and Big Ten runner up goes to the Rose Bowl or something. I'm not saying it's likely, but let's face the truth here, the SEC and Big Ten are the monetary drivers of college football, yet big government types like Orrin Hatch want to reallocate the profits of our conference to other smaller conferences. Fan bases like ours prop up the college football economy and if the government tries to strong arm Delaney into giving our money to the Boise States of the world, it will not end well for the small schools. The chance for the small schools to play in a $15 million BCS bowl will evaporate because the Big Ten (with some strategic poaching) and the SEC can take the ball and go home, leaving Boise and TCU to fight it out in the Micron Bowl for $2 million or whatever.
    I guess never is a strong word but i really dont ever see a scenario where long standing leagues like the Big 12 and Big East dissolve. This is a just another example of a media writer speculating on an unlikely scenario. I know he is well respected but there is no factual basis to his story. Its just something he dreamed up or heard someone else speculating about.

    I could see the Big Ten adding more than one team (maybe 3) but it wont lead to conferences dissolving. If we poach a team or two out of the Big East or Big 12 they will just go down to a lower level conference and snatch one of their schools.
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    Re: 16 Team Big Ten Superconference

    I have been in favor of such a move for a long time. In fact, I would like FBS to go to four 18 team super conferences.

    1) North Big: Ten/Big East would also need to lose one

    2) South/East: SEC/ACC

    3) Mid-America: Big Twelve + others from GN (1) and SE (6) would need to lose one.

    4) West: Pac Ten + MWC/WAC

    There are currently 66 teams in the major conferences (including ND).

    You would have to find 6 additional teams.

    Boise, BYU, TCU, Utah, Fresno, UNLV, Colorado State, Reno would all be possible options.

    Break each conference up into two 9 team divisions and have a final game in which the teams in order of division record would play a team from the other division, (So, if Iowa finished second in the Western Division of the North Conference, they would play the team that finished second in the Eastern Division of the North Conference, and so on) Home Field would alternate each year between divisions.

    However, those games would not necessarily determine entrance into the playoffs. Each division champion would get into the playoffs.

    It would help mostly in seeding the playoff system.

    That would give you 8 playoff teams.

    You would also have 48 non-major conference teams.

    Put these into two super-conferences of 24 teams each split up into 2 divisions of 12. The division champs would play each other, which would give you 2 at large non-major conference automatic playoff teams.

    Now you have ten playoff teams.

    The choice of 6 playoff teams after that would be up to a seeding committee. They could take into consideration the winner of the game between the two second place teams in each conference, etc. Each conference would have a representative on the seeding committee and no conference could have more than three teams, unless all the major conferences had three teams.

    That would give you a 16 team playoff. Each division team could play the 8 other teams in their division and one team from the other division. That would give them 9 conference games and leave space for three OOC games. Preferably with non major conference teams.

    The non-major conference teams would have a legitimate chance to get into the playoffs. However, they would be up against 23 teams, instead of 9. Nonetheless, these would be smaller schools as the larger non-major teams would have already joined major conferences.
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    Re: 16 Team Big Ten Superconference

    Good stuff, CAARHawk. Never thought about superconferences leading into a real playoff.

    Just wondering what the regular season schedule would look like with 16 or 18 teams in your conference? Iowa would play Michigan once every 10 years or so? (I haven't done the math.)
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    They should just go to 4 Super Regional conference - Midwest, East, South and West. 16 teams in each (8 in each division) and the winners of each division play in the playoffs.
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    i see the concept but see it never happening
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    Re: 16 Team Big Ten Superconference

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucketochicken View Post
    This is funny.
    I agree. I immediately thought subtract one team.
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    Re: 16 Team Big Ten Superconference

    Quote Originally Posted by BA96MA99 View Post
    Good stuff, CAARHawk. Never thought about superconferences leading into a real playoff.

    Just wondering what the regular season schedule would look like with 16 or 18 teams in your conference? Iowa would play Michigan once every 10 years or so? (I haven't done the math.)
    This would require two teams dropping out of the major conferences. That is why I put the divisions at 9 teams. I think it would be easier to add than delete teams.
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