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    How ****** will you be if we get a Plus One?

    With the new Big 12/SEC "Champions Bowl" being announced, there has been some renewed energy regarding the original Plus One idea that the SEC and ACC tried to get instituted in 2008. This format is you play the bowls as normal and then take the top 2 teams after for the NCG. No attempt is made to match #1 vs. #4 and #2 vs. #3 in this format.

    If this gets implemented after we have basically been told we are getting a 4 team playoff, I will be irate. I would probably rather have the current system than a Plus One. What says you?

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    Re: How ****** will you be if we get a Plus One?

    I will be ecstatic.

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    Re:How ****** will you be if we get a Plus One?

    I'd be okay with it.

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    I'd be fine with it. A plus one with two pseudo semi-finals will more or less work while the big four conferences continue to get their money. ACC and ND continue to fade.

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    Re: How ****** will you be if we get a Plus One?

    The "plus one" was what I was hoping for all along. They need to get this done.

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    Re: How ****** will you be if we get a Plus One?

    I have always wanted a plus one

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    Re:How ****** will you be if we get a Plus One?

    I would be fine with it

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    I would be completely thrilled. For my money, this would basically fix it - a 4 team playoff.

    I could live with an 8 team playoff if I had to. When people start talking 16, I start getting real nervous, because in my mind you're trying to manufacture "march madness for college football" once you get to that point.

    Don't get me wrong - I love march madness, but you have to understand what it is: college bball is trading in the integrity of the regular season for a nice little popularity boost at the end...which continues to be a really solid strategy for college bball. But bball is and always has been 2nd fiddle to football - there's no way in hell college football needs to resort to gimmickry.

    In my mind, there are 3 things college football needs to do to stay healthy:

    1. Address the BCS (a +1 would go a LOOOONG ways towards this)
    2. Address player safety (I think strides have been made in this direction, hopefully it will continue to evolve. Oh, and go ahead and call me a communist weenie - I don't care)
    3. Clamp down on the cheaters (precious little has been done in this area. The big boys hold way too much clout in the current environment - the NCAA's weak punishments of late illustrates this well).

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    Re: How ****** will you be if we get a Plus One?

    I would be fine with it as long as conference SOS is built in. Wouldn't want a BE team that beat an ACC team in a bowl game jump the winner of a B1G team that beat a P12 team just be because they cruised through an easy conference schedule.

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    Re: How ****** will you be if we get a Plus One?

    Quote Originally Posted by CAARHawk View Post
    I would be fine with it as long as conference SOS is built in. Wouldn't want a BE team that beat an ACC team in a bowl game jump the winner of a B1G team that beat a P12 team just be because they cruised through an easy conference schedule.
    I assume there'd be a BCS-type ranking/formula to determine the two in the plus-one.

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    Re: How ****** will you be if we get a Plus One?

    A "plus one" has all the potential to cause more controversy than a playoff system. Wins and losses are weighted more heavily at the end of a season, which could lead to a lot of whining after a bowl blowout (see 2012 Orange Bowl). I used to be very skeptical about polls and rankings, but after putting my own ranking system together this last season, I'm much more comfortable with a playoff for the National Championship between the top four teams.

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    Re: How ****** will you be if we get a Plus One?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlondeTuco View Post
    A "plus one" has all the potential to cause more controversy than a playoff system. Wins and losses are weighted more heavily at the end of a season, which could lead to a lot of whining after a bowl blowout (see 2012 Orange Bowl). I used to be very skeptical about polls and rankings, but after putting my own ranking system together this last season, I'm much more comfortable with a playoff for the National Championship between the top four teams.
    The bowls would be the playoff. If you don't want to not play in the championship game, don't lose in the Rose Bowl or the new SEC/BigXII Suck Bowl. Those losses *should* be weighted.

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    Re: How ****** will you be if we get a Plus One?

    Quote Originally Posted by DwayneTwill View Post
    I assume there'd be a BCS-type ranking/formula to determine the two in the plus-one.
    Yes, I know. I am just saying the current system sucks. Too much emphasis on any win. More emphasis needs to be out on SOS.

    Plus, if the ACC stays viable, they need a bowl game between their champ and the BE champ. No more at large teams playing major conference champs. Now, they would have to be smart with that game as neither conference travels.

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    Re: How ****** will you be if we get a Plus One?

    Quote Originally Posted by DwayneTwill View Post
    The bowls would be the playoff. If you don't want to not play in the championship game, don't lose in the Rose Bowl or the new SEC/BigXII Suck Bowl. Those losses *should* be weighted.
    That's all fine and dandy unless you're Boise State or another team in one of the other seven conferences. Take away a BCS Bowl opponent for these smaller schools, while bulking up the SOS for major-conference schools, and you're going to see an outstanding gap between conferences.

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    Re: How ****** will you be if we get a Plus One?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlondeTuco View Post
    That's all fine and dandy unless you're Boise State or another team in one of the other seven conferences. Take away a BCS Bowl opponent for these smaller schools, while bulking up the SOS for major-conference schools, and you're going to see an outstanding gap between conferences.
    Boise State has never deserved to be in the championship game. I don't know why that'd change now.

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