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    Perhaps this is what Mandel was getting at...

    6 Best and Worst College Football Coaches' Contracts | Bleacher Report

    Note the last line of the comment on KFz's contract.
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    Re: Perhaps this is what Mandel was getting at...

    curious, are you implying kirk is no longer trying or putting in any effort?
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    Re: Perhaps this is what Mandel was getting at...

    No, Mandel specifically pointed out that he was grading on recent on field performance only.

    A few years ago when mandel had KF as his #3 top coach, KF was making big bucks then also.

    Salary does not enter into his critieria.


    And Bleacher Report once again proves how worthless they are....with this kind of crap analysis.
    If KF wins 10 games this year, then they will be saying he is a bargain.

    Suggesting that KF would tank the season to be fired so he can collect the buyout....wow...KF has more integrity in his little finger than these guys and all those coaches put together.
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    Re: Perhaps this is what Mandel was getting at...

    So why would Saben or Brown not have the same "lack of incentive" they make more then Ferentz? Yea maybe their deals aren't as fixed on the back end but I bet they'll be paid more between now and when that time comes if they are all still coaching. If anyone of you knows anything about being around coaches (i have hs coaches in my family) Then you know that these guys eat drink and sleep football. Complacency is the last thing that would happen with coaches. It's all they do. And when that does happen they quit. It's not a job you can half *** it cause the other assistants wouldn't stand for it. I don't think Ferentz is of the ilk to just rest on his laurels and just mail it in and cash checks. It would really go against his nature
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    Re: Perhaps this is what Mandel was getting at...

    On a slightly different tangent....

    Many AD's answer the question...."how much salary are you willing to pay to have a full stadium years on end" and "how much are you willing to pay for a solid respectible if not credible face of the program?" and at Iowa the number is large.
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    Re: Perhaps this is what Mandel was getting at...

    Quote Originally Posted by JHHawk View Post
    No, Mandel specifically pointed out that he was grading on recent on field performance only.

    A few years ago when mandel had KF as his #3 top coach, KF was making big bucks then also.

    Salary does not enter into his critieria
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    And Bleacher Report once again proves how worthless they are....with this kind of crap analysis.
    If KF wins 10 games this year, then they will be saying he is a bargain.

    Suggesting that KF would tank the season to be fired so he can collect the buyout....wow...KF has more integrity in his little finger than these guys and all those coaches put together.
    Epic fail of a post. What do you mean Mandel only refers to on-field performance and not salary. Here's what he said in the article.

    Kirk Ferentz, Iowa. The 2009 Orange Bowl proved an aberration in Ferentz's otherwise unimpressive recent tenure. Take away that one 11-2 season and the Hawkeyes are 47-41 since 2005 under their $3.6 million-per-year coach.

    Read More: Nick Saban, Urban Meyer top list of best college football coaches - College Football - Stewart Mandel - SI.com

    Here's what he said on twitter.

    Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel 8 Jul Kirk Ferentz's inclusion on today's worst coaches list drawing by far the most backlash. Iowa fans apparently OK w/ $3.6M/yr to go 4-8



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    Re: Perhaps this is what Mandel was getting at...

    The only thing Mandel was getting at was being the blogging equivalent of a shock jock...and on that front, Mission: Accomplished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkeyeShane View Post
    The only thing Mandel was getting at was being the blogging equivalent of a shock jock...and on that front, Mission: Accomplished.
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    Re: Perhaps this is what Mandel was getting at...

    ugh.....

    less than 2 months away......from the distraction on actual football.
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    7 wins is average, 8 wins is good, 9 wins is great, 10+ wins is AWESOME.

    Fewer than 6 wins should draw criticism on all levels.

    Everything is based on Expectations....I EXPECT 7 wins on the norm, but anything less that 6....never acceptable.

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    Re: Perhaps this is what Mandel was getting at...

    Quote Originally Posted by HawkeyeShane View Post
    The only thing Mandel was getting at was being the blogging equivalent of a shock jock...and on that front, Mission: Accomplished.
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    Re: Perhaps this is what Mandel was getting at...

    Saying KF is not trying to win, complacent, or not working hard is ridicurous. D1 college football coaches work 20 hours a day man. They are all fully vested in winning and extremely driven individuals. We have these claims/ posts reguraly and they are just dumb.
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    Re: Perhaps this is what Mandel was getting at...

    Quote Originally Posted by IowaFan81 View Post
    Epic fail of a post. What do you mean Mandel only refers to on-field performance and not salary. Here's what he said in the article.

    Kirk Ferentz, Iowa. The 2009 Orange Bowl proved an aberration in Ferentz's otherwise unimpressive recent tenure. Take away that one 11-2 season and the Hawkeyes are 47-41 since 2005 under their $3.6 million-per-year coach.

    Read More: Nick Saban, Urban Meyer top list of best college football coaches - College Football - Stewart Mandel - SI.com

    Here's what he said on twitter.

    Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel 8 Jul Kirk Ferentz's inclusion on today's worst coaches list drawing by far the most backlash. Iowa fans apparently OK w/ $3.6M/yr to go 4-8



    Show me where Mandel cited KF's salary as part of the reason that he considers him one of the 5 worst coaches in the country?

    Mandel specifically indentified KF's record on the field(sans the Orange Bowl championship year with a school record 11 wins) the last 5 years as his reason for including KF.

    Mandel is getting rightfully ripped by commentors from all over the nation on his KF inclusion,not just Iowa fans. KF was getting paid the same amount when Mandel included him as his #3 top coach in the country,so clearly, salary is not a factor one way or another in his criteria.
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    Re: Perhaps this is what Mandel was getting at...

    Quote Originally Posted by JHHawk View Post
    Show me where Mandel cited KF's salary as part of the reason that he considers him one of the 5 worst coaches in the country?

    Mandel specifically indentified KF's record on the field(sans the Orange Bowl championship year with a school record 11 wins) the last 5 years as his reason for including KF.

    Mandel is getting rightfully ripped by commentors from all over the nation on his KF inclusion,not just Iowa fans. KF was getting paid the same amount when Mandel included him as his #3 top coach in the country,so clearly, salary is not a factor one way or another in his criteria.
    Are you kidding or are you actually serious? Mandel provides no specific criteria overall, but does talk about Ferentz's record and his salary in his one liner. Then tweets about last year's record and salary earned. Your reading comprehension must be terrible. Show me where Mandel doesn't mention salary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkeyeMHA View Post
    Saying KF is not trying to win, complacent, or not working hard is ridicurous. D1 college football coaches work 20 hours a day man. They are all fully vested in winning and extremely driven individuals. We have these claims/ posts reguraly and they are just dumb.
    What you post is true.

    But it cannot be underestimated that in spite of any pressure to win (or lack thereof) at the end of the day Kirk Ferentz knows before this contract expires he is going to make at least 17 (if fired) to 27 million dollars regardless of how many games he wins. Its human nature with having that kind of security within the framework of making that kind of money that someone's desire to succeed and the corresponding work required will be less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJHawk View Post
    What you post is true.

    But it cannot be underestimated that in spite of any pressure to win (or lack thereof) at the end of the day Kirk Ferentz knows before this contract expires he is going to make at least 17 (if fired) to 27 million dollars regardless of how many games he wins. Its human nature with having that kind of security within the framework of making that kind of money that someone's desire to succeed and the corresponding work required will be less.
    True, unless he wants to move on or up in the ranks. What he does in the last 7 years of contract will affect his potential career opportunities.
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